Ceramics, metal. I think it was Louella Parsons. MS. SHEA: [Laughs.] MS. SHEA: And when you talk about this, I often think about a young artist starting out that wouldn't have that same depth of experience, but it's what are your thoughts on that?

And I had a wonderful review in The New York Times. MS. SHEA: I was going to say I would assume that. The newest section actually is not the history of design, it's microscopic photography and botany. Well, thank you once again. It's such a small world. MS. SHEA: No. Oka Doner has received many awards and honors, including: Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. MS. SHEA: Right. MS. OKA DONER: That was unusual, to go from the proper New York moment to something that had texture and soul, I'll say. MS. OKA DONER: Maybe today they are. And you have another one of your burning bushes on that space. And I happened to find a photograph of my school in the national publication. "Your absence goes through me like a needle through cloth.". MS. SHEA: And then just to talk a little bit more about the setting. MS. OKA DONER: That's when I read. MS. SHEA: I don't think one would have tuned that in. But the whole floor is scattered with juniper branches and filbert leaves, and nuts and seeds dispersed among all the justice. One went to the Yale Museum of Art, and the Corning Museum. MS. OKA DONER: Yes. They'd teach me and I'd make it myself, or with them. A collection of Oka Doners works in clay from the 1960s and 70s includes the Tattooed Doll on left, which was in her 1968 graduate exhibition at the University of Michigan. And it's the only floor I've done in aluminum, because the finishes in the building were aluminum and he was afraid of the yellow of the bronze. You mentioned it sounded like some of your public projects were very important to you. I'm looking at almost a person height of what would you call, they're almost rough, small, stick-like or coral-like strands that come together. MS. SHEA: And then what would you say I thought that I read somewhere you'd talked about the federal courthouse projects as some of your favorite, or maybe that's not a fair word, but . MS. SHEA: And then my memory was there was the warming pan or heating element for the wax. And then I walked around the area where they built the library and picked up different leaves and twigs and brought it back to the studio and worked from whatever was there. MS. SHEA: Yes.

But I was also thinking of other places, too, where theres mud and dirt and human misery. It's a huge school. (Now retired, Fred manages the business side of his wifes studio.) All the time I can, certain people that we maintain certain discussions. And I agreed. So perhaps that would be a nice thing to do. Not the same day, mind you. MS. OKA DONER: Yes. By then were you with someone that you moved to , MS. OKA DONER: Just children would sit under trees and, you know, play. I do a lot of work with Bill [William] Georgis. "Artists Whose Work Doesn't Hang on Walls. MS. OKA DONER: It is. The red-patinated heart-shaped sculpture next to it is Mermaids Heart, 2002. MS. OKA DONER: Czannes, yes. And it's the collection of Judaica here in New York at Temple Emmanuel. MS. OKA DONER: He was the first sort of multicultural , MS. SHEA: I was going to say, and then often looking at the Middle East, the Islamic . So in a day, if you do six, seven pours, that's a lot. [Laughs.] MS. 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It's called Ocean Branch. In later years, Oka Doner co-authored, with Mitchell Wolfson Jr. Miami Beach: Blueprint of an Eden,[5] an intimate portrayal of Miami Beach from the 1920s to the 1960s using their families as prisms to reflect the times. I still love paper. The annual Milan Design Week has long been the established benchmark of the industry. MS. OKA DONER: and look through it. There was no context for me, and I think I would have spent my energies fighting battles I couldn't win. I found the birch trees. MS. SHEA: Oh, yes, first show. MS. OKA DONER: I took a lot of art history, and those were very strong. And then in 1970 they pulled the school of art out and made it separate.

As busy as he was, my father would pause to watch a bird sit in a puddle after the rain. And lots of animal skulls that had been explored. It was the '60s. I had a wonderful teacher. So Ann Arbor was extremely liberating for me. 2007 Doner, Michele Oka and Mitchell Wolfson, Jr.. 2005 Doner, Michele Oka and Mitchell Wolfson Jr. 2004 Stump, Ulrike Meyer, Andrew Knoll, Michele Oka Doner, Arlene Raven, Dona Warner. MS. OKA DONER: And I was in Chelsea today, and it's such a strange thing because there's no longer any consensus on what art is, and many galleries have artists who've taken photographs of photographs. MS. OKA DONER: Yes, and New York was probably too irritating. It could be. MS. SHEA: Run through those many long hallways. I assume they're metal. NBC. MS. SHEA: [Affirmative.] MS. OKA DONER: I read a lot. MS. OKA DONER: In the Fisher Building also. WebMichele Oka Doner (born 1945, Miami Beach, Florida) is an American artist and author. MS. OKA DONER: Yes. And that was, I believe, at Harvard what he had done his thesis on and brought it to Detroit. She was a minimalist before there was a word for it, Oka Doner recalls. MS. OKA DONER: Yes, run through the hallways and stop and look, and nobody was pushing you forward or moving you out of the way. And also there's a real seasonality. Did you take writing? And I said it's ridiculous. It's a still life of the Black Sea that he painted in Odessa. Then he immediately left for Chicago, [ his assistant curator MOD] Jane Jacob, worked with me on that exhibition. MS. OKA DONER: I like that, so it's enigmatic. Yes. MS. OKA DONER: It gives it a depth, and it's not so harsh. MS. OKA DONER: I have a wonderful book from the [Ann Arbor] University Press [Charles Herbert Otis 1915] from 19, maybe, 17 Michigan trees that I had the paperback and now I've got the first printing. [Laughs.]. The same sensitivity to light was the wellspring of her design for the Miami City Ballets underwaterthemed Midsummer Nights Dream. MS. OKA DONER: so they have something interesting. I work in Miami Beach, Miami at the airport. So they're three different approaches. MS. OKA DONER: Yes. Do you find it both? MS. OKA DONER: But it was I had seen a beautiful beaker in the Corning Museum that was a German glass from the Renaissance. I was going to say, it sounds. They called. A cast-bronze Radiant table supports a variety of design objects inspired by the ocean and its detritusthree of Oka Doners hand-blown and etched crystal bowls set on bronze and cast-glass reefs and a wax sculpture of a brain that, she says, emulates or suggests brain coral beneath a glass dome. Let's see, and you can see me making one of the tables. I think I looked away. There's such richness. MS. SHEA: Ah. It allowed me to take everything I had learned my first 18 years and absorb it and process it and come out, emerge from this period with things ready to move forward. So we decided we would all read Henry James with William James; we'd go through it. I used to peel the bark on trees in Miami Beach, and I used to love the idea of papyrus. MS. SHEA: And you showed me, I think it was the last time, how you created the wax shapes of at the time you were working on, I think, Michigan Leaves [To be installed Oct 2008]. And instead I moved to bronze, went into bronze, to make things that a foundry could do in parts and weld together and wouldn't break. MS. SHEA: And my memory is that you said you plan your day the night before. Miami Beach wasn't such a big city either. Some people are probably night people and. MS. OKA DONER: That was the first collaboration with an old company, old design firm. And then when I moved here I applied for Herald Square in a competition [1987] and won that, and went back and used Pewabic tiles, 11,000 gold-luster tiles for a 165-foot long wall under Macy's at Herald Square. Four lines. The chair is the exception. MS. OKA DONER: I couldn't relate, so I made really what they're called, Burning Branches [1980-1989]. You know, I wouldn't use turquoise, let's say, in Ocean Branch, and I wouldn't use this deep, dark aggregate in Miami. Following graduation, she stayed in Michigan, building a kiln herself in her backyard and finding success with shows at the Detroit Institute of Arts and PS1 in New York. And I was his teaching assistant. But I'd say my mother was really visually very highly evolved. And everything is speaking, which is it's a very live atmosphere for me. Then I have the scales of justice which we often see in the French representation. MS. SHEA: And a lot of your work, it seems to me that you've said, goes back to your childhood in Miami, but also I'm hearing you say that there is a lot of the Midwest. I used glass aggregate to represent the river, and then for the river banks I used and layered all of these different beautiful Texas stones. MS. OKA DONER: So it was just a great time in my life. MS. SHEA: I didn't realize he'd taught at University of Michigan, because isn't he now at Eastern? And he called me up and said there was somebody who was working for Steuben who was wondering if I was interested. The first one was in Greenville, Tennessee ["Poplar and Iris" (Garden of Justice), James H. Quillen United States Courthouse, 2001]. MS. SHEA: And did the tables come first? MS. SHEA: And how did you both think of the idea and then how did you present it to them? New York was slick. MS. SHEA: If you were talking to someone that thought that they wanted to be an artist, what kind of advice would you give them? And did you see some things that interested you out in the gallery realm? MS. SHEA: [Laughs.] And a year went by, and when I got a call from the creative director, I hardly remembered the dinner. And I think it's so true, because being born in Miami Beach was very significant. So I borrowed a bowl they had, I borrowed a scribe, I took it back here to New York and I tried it out, and it worked. And I think many of those parents saw that wealth can come and go . And you didn't have to, but to get an M.F.A. So your second degree was a Master of Fine Arts also at the University of Michigan. MS. SHEA: Aha. And there was something else in it that was just so immediate and I read it on the plane coming back. He wanted one of my silver trays ["Celestial Tray"]. MS. OKA DONER: And I've always made installations. Unfortunately, much of this potential is never realized because the inside sales team has not been properly trained and coached. And I still have the record. Additionally, Michele Oka Doner created a large-scale art installation, Mangrove Retreat, in 2015 for Art Basel Miami Beach using Sunbrella fabric.[42]. But, Ettore, maybe, something like that. MS. SHEA: Oh, so it's a combination of the materials. I don't even know words for beyond tertiary, because maybe we didn't have it. It's in one of the Lewis Mumford books I have, [Architecture as a Home for Man: Essays for Architectural Record, New York: Architectural Record Books, 1975; p.33 MOD]. 2 seconds ago 0 1 mins 0 1 mins And I was also making objects. It's very specific. 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I wrote only a two-paragraph proposal, she says, describing her idea to create an inversion, to descend into light instead of darkness., Her concept for Radiant Site, meant to give commuters a rare moment of Zen, comprised a 165-foot passageway whose walls were covered with 11,000 ceramic tiles in varying shades of gold.Organizers were concerned about graffiti artists, who were prolific in that decade. And he brought Bruce Slovin down here, who was a patron, and we came up with the idea of biblical species as a theme. MS. OKA DONER: I didn't have enough light in the Florida apartment in the living room. Okay. MS. OKA DONER: In the '60s. Ive made a sacred space. In almost thirty years, its never been damaged.. To them, it wasnt art, it wasnt design, she says. And I think that it's just instinctive. Are these . Most fled programs of 1918-1921 MOD], which still exists. So the Japanese city was Fujisawa? And so I didn't have a very classical education. MS. OKA DONER: Well, it's pure yellowish, and what the white is, is a pigment that I bang up. And another library Sacramento, Evanston and Ocean Branch. Do you remember any in particular? MS. SHEA: And you were in, it sounds like, kind of a more of a family, stable type of mode. [13] Other work can be found in the collection of the University of Michigan Museum of Art[14][15] including the large, cast bronze figures by Oka Doner, Angry Neptune, Salacia and Strider, located outside the museum. In that project, they left me the plaza identity, but it was so highly designed and there was so little room to do anything that I had trouble sinking a taproot in and expanding. Oka Doner is a gracious hostess and you can tell immediately shes both intrepid and slightly shy. MS. SHEA: [Laughs.] MS. OKA DONER: My Aunt Dorothy, my difficult Aunt Dorothy [Heller] was still in the Village. MS. OKA DONER: I can't just sort of wing it. MS. OKA DONER: you could spend the whole afternoon. There's Cadet Blue, Rebel Gray.

I did read the wonderful David Brooks editorial in The Times a few weeks ago called, "I Am a Strange Loop." And the floor is the canvas.
MS. OKA DONER: Probably not. I said, oh, I'm sure you can. I scribbled it on The Poem of Chalk [1994] by Philip Levine; a Detroiter, by the way. It's very slim. Somebody bought it in Michigan. MS. SHEA: Once again, this is Josephine Shea interviewing the very patient Michele Oka Doner at the artist's studio in New York City on Saturday, November the 17th, for the Archives of American Art. All the ankles were coming apart on these pieces, so when we suspended it, it's being held by something other than standing on its feet. And then that you just happened to be staying there and look out the window from . Well, we'll pick up tomorrow, then. And I had scribbled it on The Poem of Chalk. She began making these anthropomorphic forms in the late 1970s and returned to them during her 20082010 residency at the historic Nymphenburg Porcelain Manufactory in Germany, creating fifteen hundred more. You know, Pre-Columbian, I have some Pre-Columbian pieces I collected during that time, and then books on papermaking. And I had the state bear. And I put little heads on them, of people, not ducks. Do art students have their own studios? And with the glass one, it took several tries till I made them something they could actually take a mold from, even though they kept insisting they could not do this, A and B; once even if they could do it, they couldn't take a casting out of the encased material. MS. OKA DONER: I think we should all be trained as engineers. This astonishes me. Or were all those kind of people represented? Tell me about kind of the using that as an example, tell me about that process kind of from the beginning. Inside wholesalers will learn the art, as well as the science, of prospecting, qualifying, selling to ideal prospects, time management, creating new profitable relationships, referral generation, setting up effective call rotations, etc. We don't do a lot of wax at a time. Watching him create with his hands in class was a moment I will never forget. Find an in-depth biography, exhibitions, original artworks for sale, the latest news, and sold auction prices. MS. SHEA: Really? And then Peter Marino and I swapped that piece. I'm so tired of keeping it the right temperature, if you want it. It was open in the plans so the living room and dining area were seamless; one poured floor with Cuban tile, which is really a very fine cement. MS. SHEA: Right. Actually created music instead of just listening to music. MS. SHEA: [Laughs.] So I go and I go up in my room, and I open the curtain and I look out at the river and all of a sudden I realize that down the river is the flame. We just have to figure out, we have so many ideas which one we want to do. MS. OKA DONER: No, they called it a Bachelor of Science and Design.